17:20 - Tracy talks about her road from Chicago to NC Symphony and how that led to her podcast. She talks what the purpose of a podcast. Tracy speaks of important guests and interviews. We elaborate on podcasts in general. 17:25 - 23:20 - Tracy and I talk about social media and the Arts/Orchestra world - 23:25 - 32:00 - We discuss Tracy’s program whereby she is guiding musicians with visibility and developing a wider audience. - Tracy talks about the mindset of breaking out of a certain “mindset” - We talk about her program with Jennifer Rosenfeld “Package your Brilliance” 32:01 - 37:27 - Tracy discusses her practice with her horn playing - We talk about the balance of family, life and practice 37:28 - 39:30 - We discuss our children and their learning and practicing instruments 40:00 - 48:10 - Tracy talks about her relationship to music as a listener - She talks about Miles Davis “58 Sessions” - We talk about potential music listener fatigue - Tracy talks about active versus passive listening - We talk about our musical tastes