Show notes
Simon Peyton Jones is the co-creator of Haskell (pure functional programming language) and I interviewed him about functional programming, why it matters, and his thoughts on other programming languages.• My ergonomic keyboard project I mentioned, you can follow along here: https://read.compose.llc/Podcast links:• YouTube: https://youtu.be/xcB_LF3cdqw• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/co-creator-of-haskell-functionalThank you to this episode's sponsor for supporting my work:• WorkOS: makes your app Enterprise Ready with easy to use APIs to add SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more in just a few lines of code, check them out at https://workos.com/Timestamps:(00:00) Intro(00:39) What functional programming is(09:18) Downsides of functional programming(10:53) Specialized hardware for functional programming(21:47) Haskell is useless(25:59) Rust vs C(28:26) Haskell vs OCaml(35:26) Side effects in Haskell(44:26) Type systems(57:30) How the Haskell compiler works(01:04:35) Why Haskell is talked about more than used(01:09:07) Avoiding success at all costs(01:11:12) LLMs and programming languages(01:13:57) New programming language design(01:15:59) Should students continue to learn programming(01:22:33) Why Excel is his 2nd favorite programming language(01:25:04) Advice for his younger selfWhere to find Simon:• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonpj/• Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Peyton_Jones• Personal Website: https://simon.peytonjones.org/Where to find Ryan:• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpetermanReferenced in this episode:• Haskell is useless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSmkqocn0oQ• John Backus Turing Award lecture: https://worrydream.com/refs/Backus_1978_-_Can_Programming_Be_Liberated_from_the_von_Neumann_Style.pdf• Why functional programming matters: https://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/dat/miranda/whyfp90.pdf• Excel is his 2nd favorite programming language: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M4P5M85KO8
