The Peterman Pod
The Peterman Pod
Ryan Peterman
Amazon VP On Promotions, Getting Fired Twice, Working With Bezos | Ethan Evans
53 minutes Posted Aug 1, 2025 at 9:00 am.
Ethan Evans went from being fired twice because of poor soft skills to getting promoted to Vice President at Amazon with a team of over 800 engineers. I asked him about everything he learned along the way.We discussed:• Being fired for poor soft skills• What VP promotions look like• Working with Jeff Bezos and Andy Jassy (current Amazon CEO)• VP performance reviews• Stack ranking, PIPs and how managers can fire anyone• Advice for his younger selfTimestamps:
Intro
Experience before Amazon
Getting fired twice & learnings
Joining Amazon
What VP promotions look like
Promotion failure story
Integrating Twitch into Amazon
Jeff Bezos vs Andy Jassy stories
VP performance reviews
Stack ranking & PIPs
A manager can fire anyone they want
Advice for his younger self
0:00
53:25
Download MP3
Show notes
Ethan Evans went from being fired twice because of poor soft skills to getting promoted to Vice President at Amazon with a team of over 800 engineers. I asked him about everything he learned along the way.We discussed:• Being fired for poor soft skills• What VP promotions look like• Working with Jeff Bezos and Andy Jassy (current Amazon CEO)• VP performance reviews• Stack ranking, PIPs and how managers can fire anyone• Advice for his younger selfTimestamps:(00:00) Intro(01:01) Experience before Amazon(05:03) Getting fired twice & learnings(14:02) Joining Amazon(16:02) What VP promotions look like(26:03) Promotion failure story(29:14) Integrating Twitch into Amazon(33:48) Jeff Bezos vs Andy Jassy stories(36:53) VP performance reviews (41:10) Stack ranking & PIPs(46:11) A manager can fire anyone they want(50:45) Advice for his younger self(53:03) OutroWhere to find Ethan:• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethanevansvp/• X/Twitter: https://x.com/EthanEvansVP• Newsletter: https://levelupwithethanevans.substack.com/• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-BAdkBGjOIlccGLZ3jbLiAWhere to find Ryan:• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/