For this episode, Rob and I interviewed Dave Sobel, the host of the Business of Tech podcast (<a href="https://www.businessof.tech/" rel="nofollow">https://www.businessof.tech/</a>).

We talked about:

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<li>The ins and outs of managed service providers (MSPs) and why they’re relevant to a growing number of people (yes, even you)</li>
<li>Why the intersection of business and tech is the key to success for so many tech folks</li>
<li>How to move from being a cost center to being a revenue generator</li>
<li>The importance of being comfortable talking about money, money, money</li>
<li>Risk management, IT security, and the mafia behind current tech threats</li>
<li>Why education is the core offering for many tech companies</li>
<li>How he became a full-time podcaster </li>
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Enjoy this multi-layered, informative, and fun episode!Special Guest: Dave Sobel.

Episode 321: You're Color Blind to Red Flags

We explore the intersection of Tech Leadership &amp; Dream careers. We do this by creating inspiring podcasts - including interviews with amazing individuals in the tech leadership space. Dr. Jen Bunk earned her Ph.D. in I/O Psychology (a.k.a. The Science of Work). She is a retired Associate Professor and an accomplished speaker &amp; researcher. As the CEO of the People Stack, she’s used her decades of experience to coach hundreds of tech leaders to create their dream careers - and the dream lives that go with them. Rob Allen (Jen’s husband) is a 20+ year software industry veteran who moved from IC to Leadership in 2010, where the focus has always been on helping the technical folks who worked for him live their best lives. In 2019, he broadened that to the tech community as a whole by joining Jen full-time at The People Stack as her Co-CEO.