What makes a church healthy—not just successful? In this episode, Rev. Tara Beth Leach and Dr. Mark Quanstrom continue their conversation with Randy Frazee, exploring how culture—not just strategy—determines a church’s future.Randy shares how his leadership philosophy has shifted over the years—from top-down leadership models to team-based collaboration, from focusing on numbers to prioritizing engagement. His wisdom is a must-hear for pastors wrestling with staff culture, leadership expectations, and burnout.🎙️ In This Episode:Why culture eats strategy for breakfast—and how to shape it well.How collaborative leadership (instead of top-down models) creates healthier churches.Why self-awareness and humility matter more than being a "visionary leader."How pastors can embrace their strengths instead of trying to do it all.📌 Highlights:[[[[💡 Takeaway:Pastors don’t have to be everything to everyone. True leadership comes from embracing your strengths, surrounding yourself with the right people, and fostering a culture where others thrive.