-7:29 Eric Detweiler shares his path toward rhetorical theory and his definitions of progymnasmata, pedagogy, and rhetorical pedagogy to provide context about the article; 7:30-9:55 Detweiler explains the challenges to modifying ancient progymnasmata into social media, where arguments commonly take place; 9:56-13:18 Detweiler discusses certain elements found in the exercises presented in his article: 13:19-16:28 Detweiler explains his ability to maintain audience engagement while trying to instruct them about podcast projects and shares his opinions about how people should practice podcasting; 16:29-20:36 Detweiler shares his opinions on how people should approach podcasting as beginners; 20:37-23:58 Detweiler describes how the increased accessibility to podcasting through social media, such as TikTok, has affected his teaching style; 23:59-24:45 Detweiler explains that podcasting is a medium that offers creators opportunities to share their niche interests and gain unique audiences; 24:45-26:30 Denning’s reflection on the interview and credits.