Karen Chinca, LICSW, CEDS-S, Diplomate, Academy of Cognitive Therapy, joins us to discuss the phrase ‘drop the rope’ in treatment with our patients and clients. She is an expert in OCD and eating disorders, their dual diagnosis, and exposure therapy. Karen teaches us how and why we need to treat all of a person’s diagnosis in a dynamic, caring, thoughtful journey together with their anxiety as their best friend.