We've all heard of Levelling Up - but this week there was a launch of a book called Levelling Up 2.0: A Blueprint for the Future, by the policy institute Curia, where Michael Gove, the Cabinet Minister in charge of the project, gave a keynote speech.

Could it be a sign that the concept which was on everyone's lips when Boris Johnson was Prime Minister needs some fresh impetus to get it back on the political agenda?

This week on the podcast Rob Parsons speaks to Katherine Fletcher, Tory MP for South Ribble in Lancashire, who wrote a chapter in the book.

She talks about why we should be focusing on more than just big boys' trains sets when talking about transport links, and why a mayor like Andy Burnham might not be the answer for her home county of Lancashire.

And Rob has a look at some of this week's more interesting politics stories - like sewage in the water and the impact of soaring interest rates - with a brilliant Northern journalist who's made his name in London, Kevin Maguire, associate editor at the Daily Mirror.

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