The White House lawyer and Kansas native talked with Matt Apuzzo, a reporter for The Times, about the state of the special counsel's investigation and the White House legal strategy, what it will mean if Paul Manafort gets indicted, that trademark handlebar mustache and more.
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Speaker Paul Ryan

This limited-run series of interviews from the producers of "The Daily" takes you inside Trump’s Washington. From July through December of 2017, "The New Washington" delivered interviews with the political character you wanted to hear from most that week, with analysis and commentary from Michael Barbaro, Carl Hulse and their colleagues in the D.C. bureau of The New York Times.

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