In this episode we talk about minute 85 of The NeverEnding Story: What happened to Jonathan? What happened to Atreyu?! Thomas has Tierney and Steve Lastoe of The Princess Bride Minute to emotionally support him as he has to watch The Childlike Empress cry. Steve brings some excellent discussion of universe building and destruction as well as the fun observation that perhaps we're watching a young Jim Carrey. This minute brings us right up to the moment when Bastian will CALL HER NAME! Be sure to check out our guest: Steve Lastoe from The Princess Bride Minute