Lyle Wood and Nick Schultz have a conversation about Lyle's experience with having his dad commit suicide when he was 2, being abused by his step father, never feeling like he had a "daddy", not having a man model how to be a husband and father to him, having his mother die in a wildfire, trying to cope with loss and become healthy, battle with anger and depression, allowing others to help him out of his darkest place, discovering the challenges of being in and out of pastoral ministry and more.