In episode 23, Hilary disturbs Natalie with a laundry list of old nursery rhymes and their sinister origins. Due to recording this 2024 episode in 2023, the conversation meanders through various topics such as baby names, Salem, Donny from The Wild Thornberries, and more!

Trigger Warning

Please be mindful of the following triggers: mentions of torture devices, racism

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