<p>In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk one-downing, dry January, raging creatives, and Nigerian faith healers. Also, Sarah reveals how to get people to care, and Dave finally says what we&#39;re all thinking about RJ. </p>

<p>Correction: around the 30 min mark, when Dave says &quot;Johnny Walker&quot; he meant to say &quot;Jack Daniels.&quot;</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/colbertlateshow/videos/564068128572213/" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to watch the clip of Colbert speaking with Quinta Brunson</li>
<li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/-dry-january-challenge-2023-drinking-meaning-benefits/672695/" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to read The Atlantic interview about Dry January</li>
<li><a href="https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/the-creative-underclass-is-still" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to read Freddie deBoer&#39;s newsletter on the Raging Creative Underclass</li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/24/opinion/miracles-neuroscience-proof.html" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to read Molly Worthen&#39;s piece about Miracles in the NY Times.</li>
<li><a href="https://mbird.com/theology/god-has-made-a-decision-about-you/" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to read Jim Nestingen&#39;s forward to Free to Be</li>
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Episode 238: Heaven Is a Sleepover

The Mockingcast is a bi-weekly podcast hosted by RJ Heijmen, Sarah Condon and David Zahl, and brought to you by Mockingbird Ministries, an organization which seeks to connect the Christian faith with the realities of everyday life in fresh and down-to-earth ways. You can find out more about Mockingbird at www.mbird.com. Audio production provided by TJ Hester.