Michael Steele speaks with former Washington State Party Chairman, Chris Vance about his new book, "The Fall of the Shining City: What Happened to the Republican Party. Why it Happened. And What Must Happen Now to Save American Democracy.” The pair discuss third parties and creating a new faction of the GOP, whether or not the GOP will return to being a party of Reagan and where the party goes moving forward.

Check out "The Fall of the Shining City" here: https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Shining-City-Republican-Happened/dp/B0CW2LVM1C

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