We are all tired of talking about the pandemic! We've heard stories from every angle imaginable. Yet this episode covers an aspect that is going unreported in the American press, even though it is impacting millions of people around the world. The pandemic, tragic as it is for those in the west, is more tragic by far in the developing world. Don Messer, founder and CEO of the Center for Health and Hope (https://www.centerforhealthandhope.org/) is one of our guests today. Don was president of DWU from 1971-1981 and has been deeply engaged in meeting the needs of those with HIV/AIDS in the developing world. Andrew Devaney is the founder and CEO of AsOne Ministries (https://www.asoneafrica.org/), a development ministry working in several villages in Uganda. I do encourage you to make donations to these two ministries if you want to help meeting desperate needs in this part of the world.