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Real Magic Murder Mysteries #245
57 minutes Posted Dec 2, 2025 at 1:47 am.
Introduction to The Magic Guys Live
Magic and Community in the Industry
The Dark History of Soaring Illusions
True Crime and Magic: A Blending Story
Famous Magicians and Their Techniques
Original Presentations of the Sawing Illusion
Media Sensation and Public Backlash
Copycat Crimes and Their Consequences
Tragic Tales from the Stage
Dangerous Performances: A Cautionary Note
Evolution of the Soaring Illusion
Modern Interpretations and Innovations
Di Vernon and His Legacy
The Psychology Behind the Illusion
Respecting the Art of Magic
The Risks of Stage Illusions
Closing Remarks and Future Episodes
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Today's episode explores the history and controversy of the sawing-in-half (soaring through a woman) illusion. Discussing its origins, notable performers (P.T. Selbit, Horace Goldin, Oswald Williams, David Copperfield), and how sensational journalism and amateur copycats led to real-life tragedies.

The episode examines changes in presentation and safety over time, notable cases of misuse and murder, and how magicians protect the art today. It blends history, true-crime elements, and reflections on stagecraft and safety in magic.

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