The obsession to record ROI is real. Whether it's putting pressure on ourselves or if it's coming from above, we can get consumed by proving a direct return - sometimes stopping us doing anything at all. In this episode we are joined by Haydn Morgans from Search Stack who gives his opinion on all things gated content, community and podcasts.

Haydn's wide-ranging experience of working with multiple recruitment agencies enables him to provide real insight into what's working at the moment, what we need to do better and what opportunities are out there.

I hope you enjoy it and, as always, Paiger - thanks for your support.