Debate between Keith Rabois and Zach Weinberg on what tariffs are actually trying to accomplish. One core theme: Tariffs aren’t fully about “bringing back factories,” but rather a negotiation tool to eliminate foreign trade barriers - ultimately aiming to increase free trade, not restrict it.We also got into:- What each of them would do if they were in charge- Whether the trade deficit is a meaningful metric or just a misunderstood talking point- If tariffs could be part of an initiative to replace income tax — shifting toward a more consumption-based tax system- If tariffs could successfully be used as a non-military tool to reduce drug supply to the US- If there’s a major disconnect between the new administration’s rhetoric and the actual economic goals behind the policyOne of the deepest economic conversations from the show’s recent history — and a rare debate where both sides had real logic behind their views.

Introduction and Host's Biases

Keith's Perspective on Tariffs

Zach's Perspective and Clarifying Questions

Debating Tariff Strategies

Economic Implications and Free Trade

Trump's Tariff Policies and Goals

Global Trade and Protectionism

Final Thoughts on Tariffs and Trade

Discussion on Trade Tariffs and Partners

Impact of Tariffs on GDP and Debt

Political Coalitions and Trade Policies

Tariffs as Consumer Taxes

Debate on Trade Deficit and Tariff Rates

Regulatory Reforms and Economic Policies

Fentanyl Crisis and Trade Negotiations