Hello everyone! In this second episode with a Kyle, albeit a different one (long live the Kylessaince!), this time Kyle Winkler, academic, writer and fellow podcaster joins me to talk about his latest book Boris Says the Words! It is a fascinating chat on how to think and represent illnesses and misery, the potential power and danger of words, and a lot of sadness. Yet, as I always do, we tend to find some moments of hope, of possibility, in sadness that is not yet bleak. A different kind of chat, but a very good one, no doubt!

Go buy Kyle's book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B1ZF5WJQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=19ZP1DWJEUILA&keywords=boris+says+the+words+kindle&qid=1653275103&sprefix=%2Caps%2C111&sr=8-1

And also check out his show, The Left Hand of Le Guin: https://twitter.com/LeftHandLeGuin

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