The guys are back with some Leafs player news, and views, too. Why in the process of discussing the Leafs inconsistent defence does Jake Gardiner get hit with much of the criticism, but Morgan Rielly appears to slide below the conversation? Is he skirting blame or maybe he’s not really the problem? Perhaps then he's deserving of even greater appreciation? Norman and Michael convo on this stuff and more. You’re listening to the Leafs Convo. Enjoy.