Norm and Mike collab again for some Leafs conversation. More basis is rolled out for trading Jake Gardiner. Yes, it’s a polarizing discussion, but we’re just talkin’ Leafs, man. Hear us out. Also, is John Carlson, and his potential salary requirements come July 1st, worth the pursuit? Some thoughts. Plus expressing caution and concern on the Marlies front. Is their dream season in danger of a nightmarish ending? This is The Leafs Convo. Enjoy.