In this episode of The Larry Arnn Show, Hillsdale College President Larry P. Arnn interviews Matthew Spalding, vice president of Washington Operations and dean of the Van Andel Graduate School of Government at Hillsdale College in Washington, D.C. The two discuss the intellectual foundations of the Declaration of Independence, the exceptional character of the Founding Fathers, and his recent book The Making of the American Mind: The Story of our Declaration of Independence.

This interview was conducted on March 2nd, 2026.

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