The James Smith Show
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James Smith
The Problem With Running A Small Business: Diren Kartal
1 hour 15 minutes Posted Jun 23, 2026 at 7:43 am.
The Problem With Running A Small Business
Bringing In Hundreds Of Thousands And Feeling Nothing
HENRY: High Earner, Not Rich Yet
The Cost Of Living In London Right Now
Every Tax Under The Sun
Why The Shops Keep Shutting Down
Business Rates Are The Real Killer
Going All-In And How Tough It's Been
Is AI A Disruptor Or A Distraction?
Why AI Still Can't Replace The Human Bit
The Real Reason People Stopped Posting
Living It vs Looking Like You're Living
The Steven Bartlett Problem
Being Unapologetically Yourself
Short Form Is Dying, Long Form Is Back
The Will Kennedy Trust Lesson
The Diren Kartal Experience
Thinking Fast And Slow: Give Him An A-Task
Why Men Talk Shoulder To Shoulder
The Front End Is Easy, The Back End Breaks You
Long-Term Memory, Terrible Short-Term Memory
The Pressure Nobody Warns You About
You Don't Want Your Son To See You Fail
Council Estate Vibes And The Fear Of Going Back
Getting The Psych Test
Six Months On ADHD Meds
Manufacturing Stress To Motivate Yourself
Is There A Real Return On The Meds?
Escaping The Desk Job To Build Another One
The 150 Grand Website Regret
Australia Is Bad, The UK Is Worse
289,000 Businesses Set To Fail This Year
Boomers Hate To Hear How Good They Had It
Why Earning More Can Leave You With Less
Your Favourite Part Of Britain Is Leaving It
Do The Elites Just Find The Loopholes?
Stop Making The Top Earners Feel Like Villains
Why Hating Landlords Makes No Sense
How Politicians Punish The Young To "Help" Them
Will He Stay In Australia?
How The Rich Borrow Against Assets And Pay No Tax
The Stuff They Never Teach You In School
The Money Chat That Changed Everything
The Valley Of Death: 12 To 30 Employees Is Hell
If He Did It Again He'd Stay Small
We're Both Hypocrites About Debt
Tripling The Money As An Investor
The Adapt Story And Building A Brand With Mates
What's Missing From Jiu Jitsu
Just Wanting To Look Good On The Mats
Taking The Piss Out Of Jiu Jitsu Culture
Becoming The Joe Wicks Of Turkey
Should You Get Assessed For ADHD?
Meds, Music And Feeling Like You're On Psychedelics
Raising A Son Without The Noise
Wrapping Up
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Diren Kartal joins James Smith for an honest, often hilarious conversation about what running a small business actually does to you once the money is coming in but the freedom isn't. Diren is a personal trainer and Turkey's number one fitness coach with over 1.2 million followers, and despite bringing in hundreds of thousands a year he can't shake the feeling that none of it sticks. Together they unpick the tax trap that's bleeding British high-earners dry, the brutal "valley of death" stage of scaling, his secret ADHD diagnosis, and why the two of them keep eyeing the exits to Australia, Dubai and Turkey.
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He explains:
◼️ Why he can earn hundreds of thousands a year and still not feel a penny of it
◼️ The HENRY trap, and why earning over 100k in the UK can quietly leave you worse off
◼️ The secret ADHD diagnosis and meds that finally turned the noise off and let him focus
◼️ Why the rich borrow against their assets instead of selling, and never pay the tax
◼️ Why short-form scrolling left him "depressed and disgusted" and long form is the real comeback
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