<h1>Kat Vellos on Friendship</h1><a href='http://www.katvellos.com'>Kat Vellos</a> uses her background in experience design to empower people to learn, grow, and thrive. She’s written two books on adult friendship, <a href='https://bookshop.org/books/we-should-get-together-the-secret-to-cultivating-better-friendships/9781734379716'>We Should Get Together</a> and <a href='https://bookshop.org/books/connected-from-afar-a-guide-for-staying-close-when-you-re-far-away/9781734379747'>Connected from Afar</a>. In this conversation, we discuss the importance and challenges of making friends, especially during this time of ‘social distancing.’Listen to the showDownload episode 60Show notes<ul><li><a href='http://www.katvellos.com'>Kat Vellos</a></li><li><a href='https://weshouldgettogether.com'>We Should Get Together (website)</a></li><li><a href='https://bookshop.org/books/we-should-get-together-the-secret-to-cultivating-better-friendships/9781734379716'>We Should Get Together: The Secret to Cultivating Better Friendships</a> by Kat Vellos</li><li><a href='https://bookshop.org/books/connected-from-afar-a-guide-for-staying-close-when-you-re-far-away/9781734379747'>Connected from Afar: A Guide for Staying Close When You’re Far Away</a> by Kat Vellos</li><li><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroponics'>Hydroponics</a></li><li><a href='https://weshouldgettogether.com/connection-club'>Connection Club</a></li></ul>

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