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Meta’s Muse Wonder Challenges OpenAI, Why Companies Struggle to Prove AI Returns
38 minutes Posted Oct 13, 2026 at 6:51 pm.
Introduction02:28 - The White House’s AI testing shake-up15:02 - Meta’s Muse Wonder review18:51 - Token efficiency and agent costs24:18 - Measuring corporate AI returns30:56 - Why developers choose cheaper models37:33 - When frontier AI is worth the premium
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The Information’s Tech and Politics Reporter Leo Schwartz talks with TITV Host Akash Pasricha about the White House’s AI testing shake-up. We also talk with Vals AI Founder and CEO Rayan Krishnan about Meta’s Muse Wonder models and Laura Bratton about why companies struggle to measure AI returns. Lastly, The Information Pro’s Head of Research Eric Bellomo explains why developers are choosing cheaper, “good enough” models.Articles discussed in today’s show:- Trump Administration Plans to Move AI Testing Agency Officials to White Househttps://www.theinformation.com/articles/trump-administration-plans-move-ai-testing-agency-officials-white-house- Meta Unveils New AI Models to Challenge OpenAI and Anthropichttps://www.theinformation.com/briefings/meta-unveils-new-ai-models-challenge-openai-anthropic- Leading-Edge AI Models Are Losing Their Allure With Developershttps://www.theinformation.com/articles/leading-edge-ai-models-losing-allure-developersSubscribe:- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theinformation- The Information: https://www.theinformation.com/subscribe_hSign up for the AI Agenda newsletter: https://www.theinformation.com/features/ai-agendaTITV airs weekdays on YouTube, X and LinkedIn at 10AM PT / 1PM ET. Or check us out wherever you get your podcasts.Follow us:X: https://x.com/theinformationIG: https://www.instagram.com/theinformation/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@titv.theinformationLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theinformation/Chapters:01:13 - Introduction02:28 - The White House’s AI testing shake-up15:02 - Meta’s Muse Wonder review18:51 - Token efficiency and agent costs24:18 - Measuring corporate AI returns30:56 - Why developers choose cheaper models37:33 - When frontier AI is worth the premium