Christian Nationalists Are Mocking Jesus, Making Atheists, And Creating An Exodus From The Church. Thom is joined by John Pavlovitz, writer, pastor, and activist / latest book is “Worth Fighting For: Finding Courage & Compassion When Cruelty is Trending“ / PLUS, John’s new children’s book is “HERE and NOW and SMALL and CLOSE.“ Plus Retired Ladies Against Underwater Garbage and the Ukraine update with Phil Ittner.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.