Thom interviews guest Jeremy Lent on his new book, Ecocivilization, which theorizes on a new system potentially approaching that could change the way of life across the world. Instead of favoring left or right, capitalism or socialism, the system would change to one that works for the people and for the Earth, without having to do away with technology.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.