This week, Cam & D-Rock sit down with Nelson Ortiz, the co-founder of AbstractFramework. Longtime listeners may remember that they interviewed Nelson's business partner Christian Alvarado back in December. If you're new to the pod, we definitely recommend you go back and check that one out. However you won't need to have heard that one to enjoy this conversation. The guys chat with Nelson about how he got into film making, what that process looks like, which projects he's enjoyed the most and a whole lot more. Enjoy!