Gar sits down to talk with Katie Lyons to talk about her work developing animation pitches and designing kick ass shows with Sixteen South. They talk post college ennui and Cartoon Forum! Give it a lissen and give us money on www.patreon.com/wearehackincScoring Pointes: https://tinyurl.com/scoringpointesWhistle While You Work:G- Monster by Kanye WestK- K-Pop jams and www.asoftmurmur.com