Is leadership a gift, or can it be taught and trained? Dave Workman, president of Elemental Churches and former Senior Pastor of Vineyard Cincinnati,  joins us to talk through this idea and how Jesus is the ultimate, empathetic, and humble leader. Ultimately, if we model our lives after Jesus, we will be a leader to someone.Sign up for our weekly emails- filled with encouragement, podcast updates, book recommendations, and much more. Go to https://www.grownmanproject.com/ to sign up!