In Episode 85, we're joined by Camille Bordas, whose recent novel The Material explores what a fictionalized MFA program in stand-up comedy might look like. It's funny (as you might imagine) and philosophical, exploring some of the great cultural questions of our (and just about any other) time. 
You can find out more about Camille on her <a href='https://www.camillebordas.com/'>website</a>, where eight of her New Yorker short stories are linked. 
Her English language novels are both available on <a href='https://bookshop.org/contributors/camille-bordas-138ef7c6-f471-4ae4-83ea-48918db03bec'>bookshop.org.</a>
Camille's Chicago piece we mention on the 2024 Democratic National Convention is <a href='https://www.chicagomag.com/chicago-magazine/october-2024/when-the-democrats-came-to-chicago/'>here</a>. 
Camille is on Instagram a little bit <a href='https://www.instagram.com/c_bordas/?hl=en'>here</a>. 
 
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Episode 86 - Matt Bucher, author of The Summer Layoff

A podcast about literary fiction and the world of books, with hosts Matt Bucher and Dave Laird. [Logo by Chris Ayers]