In this installment of Best Of The Gist, a couple interviews from the vault in honor of Independence Day. First up, historian Gordon S. Wood explains why the friendship between founding fathers Thomas Jefferson and John Adams should give us hope. Then Mike talks about founding fathers' thighs with Alexis Coe, author of You Never Forget Your First: A Biography of George Washington. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at <a href= "http://thegist@mikepesca.com">thegist@mikepesca.com</a> To advertise on the show: <a href= "https://advertisecast.com/TheGist">https://advertisecast.com/TheGist</a> Subscribe to our ad-free and/or PescaPlus versions of The Gist: <a href= "https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/">https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ </a> Follow Mike's Substack: <a href= "https://mikepesca.substack.com/">Pesca Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href= "https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

The AUKUS Caucus Can Be Raucous

For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.