In this installment of Best Of The Gist, Mike and his first-born son Milo appeared on the <a href= "https://substack.com/@smokeempodcast">Smoke Em If You Got Em</a> podcast this past week. The two Pescas discussed toxic masculinity with the show's hosts Nancy Rommelmann and Sarah Hepola, and they graciously allowed us to play the interview in its near entirety on this weekend's Best Of show. Enjoy. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at <a href= "http://thegist@mikepesca.com">thegist@mikepesca.com</a> To advertise on the show: <a href= "https://advertisecast.com/TheGist">https://advertisecast.com/TheGist</a> Subscribe to our ad-free and/or PescaPlus versions of The Gist: <a href= "https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/">https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ </a> Follow Mike's Substack: <a href= "https://mikepesca.substack.com/">Pesca Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href= "https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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