This episode Katherine sympathises with Kate about her covid cancellations and they talk the history of efficiency, books they are loving and an iso-worthy list of binge watching recommendations.

The Featured Book segment is brought to you by Affirm Press and we talk to author Katherine Tamiko Arguile about new book Meshi: A personal history of Japanese food.  
 
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