Kate finally speaks to Claire Christian, the author of Kate's most recommended 2020 book IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE, NONI BLAKE, (aka  The Orgasm Book Lady). They discuss how Claire moves from playwriting to novel writing, what women want, writing humour, finding voice, how to find pleasure in Instagram and SO MUCH MORE.

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