Finally, Katherine's launch of The Helpline! Kate remembers her own launch night and Katherine talks through her feels, her braids and why she went home early...(stay tuned for next week's episode, it involves A TELEVISION APPEARANCE!)

Then, Kate speaks with award winning Melbourne writer, Mark Brandi on his own TV appearance, what it has to do with his literary career, and why sensory deprivation works for his writing.

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