This week, Orla and I talk about the billionaire media mogul, Oprah Winfrey, and her rise from abject poverty and personal strife to being one of the most influentiual popular figures of the past four decades, capturing hearts, swining elections, and absolutely dicking Phil Donahue... Music from Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/an-open-bookLicense code: UTSCQLDCIVWV1RUY<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Two best frenemies discuss people who started from nothing and made themselves into something - good or bad. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.