Did you know that Nameless experienced music failure when his second song after "Megarider" was badly received? Well, it was.

Thus started his journey into design-thinking, and creating music for his target audience rather than creating music he liked. In the meantime, while his career was tanking... so was his relationship with his wife Wahu. In fact, it was so bad, he literally moved out of his home to reflect on things.

And this is how he learned the art of selfishness - and how beneficial this would be to his relationship going forward.

In the second half of this interview, he shares the lessons he learned from this split and other 'failures' he has experienced.