On today's show Liz chats to Kylie Timpani. Kylie is an outstanding designer based in San Francisco. In this episode we discuss the elements of what makes a brand, the evolution of Kylie's brand design journey, how it's important for designers to be able to code, a digital first approach to branding and creating identities on the fly, responsive logos, developing a digital brand from another designer's guidelines and tons more including our obsession with Jodie Comer and typography in film.