In his new book, REIGN OF TERROR HOW THE 9/11 ERA DESTABILIZED AMERICA AND PRODUCED TRUMP. the Pulitzer prize winning investigative journalist, Spencer Ackerman, lays bare the realities of a 20 year war in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, and the rise of the surveillance state. 

Spencer links to the post 9-11 era the increasing realities around white supremacy, domestic terrorism and, ultimately, Donald Trump.

Spencer talks to Mark for the entire episode.

You can purchase Spencer's book here: REIGN OF TERROR

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