In this episode, we have a fantastic conversation with Chantelle Lewis and Paulette Williams from Leading Routes as part of our education series. We pose some questions to the ladies regarding their academic endeavors, the work that Leading Routes are doing and common challenges faced in academia as Black women. We also discuss policy, racism in HE and being working class. Useful links:@LeadingRoutes@ChantelleJLewis@pwi11iamsFOLLOW US ON TWITTER AND INSTAGRAM!Twitter: @echochamberpod_Instagram: theechochamberpod