The Powerful Deception of Successful AdditionWhy Bigger Doesn’t Mean DeeperWhat if the greatest obstacle to disciple multiplication is not failure… but success?In this episode, Brian Phipps and Jason Phelps explore how churches can experience visible growth while still struggling to produce multiplying disciples. Attendance can rise, programs can expand, and momentum can feel real—yet deep spiritual formation and generational disciple-making may still be absent beneath the surface.This conversation unpacks the difference between addition and multiplication, why bigger doesn’t automatically mean deeper, and how successful systems can quietly reinforce the wrong scorecard. If you’ve ever wrestled with the tension between church growth and real transformation, this episode will help you see the difference between momentum and multiplication.Take the Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment:https://disciplesmade.com/assessment