Dave is a manager who leads a team at KSM Consulting in Indianapolis, Indiana. We were introduced by past guest, Max Brundige, who thought that Dave would be a great person to learn about management from. 

Max was spot on. I learned so much from Dave in this conversation about what it means to lead people, manage change, and connect with others at work. Dave & I started our careers in similar types of roles at startup companies, and it was encouraging to hear him provide some perspective on how he has grown throughout his career. He talks about how his first job didn’t pan out the way he wanted it to, and how that experience led him to do A+ work in the years that followed.

Dave is also a rock climbing enthusiast outside of work - something I know very little about. We talk about how being able to keep yourself together on the side of a mountain is one of the greatest training grounds for dealing with pressure, and why rock climbing has become something that has changed the way he looks at life. 

I had a blast during this conversation with Dave, and believe that some of his insights could be really helpful for people just getting started in their career. I hope you enjoy!