This week, David Ellefson and Joshua Toomey sit down with Recurrence, a rising band making waves in the metal scene through a completely DIY approach. The guys dig into what it takes to build momentum without a label, the realities of touring as an unsigned act, and how Recurrence has managed to bring in big names—including members of Soilwork—for their latest release. From hustling on the road to collaborating with established artists, this conversation is a blueprint for the modern independent band.Join the Patreon for early access to episodes and Q and A's with the hosts www.patreon.com/tdesFor David Ellefson Stage Played Basses and Merch www.ellefsonemporium.comFollow David on Social Medialinktr.ee/davidellefsonFollow Joshua on Social Medialinktr.ee/talktoomeypodcast #megadeth #bassplayer #thrash #bigfour