It’s a different kind of podcast this week: Simon and Alberto talk about Alberto’s latest book, The Art of Insight, why data journalism is still a dream job and our approaches to working with numbers to tell stories. Find out what books got us here - and what we care about most, when it comes to data storytelling.

The ⁠music this week⁠, made with ⁠TwoTone⁠, is based on snowfall in Central Park from 1869 from ⁠this dataset⁠, via weather.gov.