The Data Exchange with Ben Lorica
The Data Exchange with Ben Lorica
Ben Lorica
Reasoning Doesn't Start With Language
40 minutes Posted Aug 27, 2026 at 11:00 am.
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Ben Lorica speaks with Andrew Dai, co-founder and CEO of Elorian AI, about why today’s frontier models still struggle with complex visual reasoning and why simply scaling language-centric architectures may not solve the problem. Subscribe to the Gradient Flow Newsletter 📩 https://gradientflow.substack.com/ Subscribe: Apple · Spotify · Overcast · Pocket Casts · AntennaPod · Podcast Addict · Amazon · RSS. Detailed show notes and transcript, can be found on The Data Exchange web site.