Surprise co-host Jessamyn joins Jesse to talk about birthdays, traveling, California, roller derby, audio editing, phone scams, tech support, meetups, weddings, Jessamyn’s most recent wedding ceremony (metatalk), Gilligan’s Island, your town being in a lake, elections, motivations, a NYTimes article and Jessamyn’s Medium post that came from it, and of course access to technology and the digital divide.

Music is two too-good-to-pass-up jingles from Jessamyn: 251 Towns and Hey Google My Town’s in the Lake.