Sorry for the confusion Snoops and Sleuths. I uploaded the wrong episode. This is my interview with author  Kathy Manos Penn. We had so much fun chatting and I hope you'll rush to get her books and follow her website https://kathymanospenn.com/ where you can also sign up for her newsletter. you can also follow her on https://www.amazon.com/Kathy-Manos-Penn/e/B01N5Q31FH%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

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