Roy Scranton is the author of War Porm, Learning to Die in the Anthropocene, and We're Doomed, Now What? His journalism, essays, fiction, poetry, and reviews have been published in Rolling Stone, the New York Times and many other publications. He is also one of the editors of Fire and Forget: Short Stories from the Long War. He holds a Ph.D. and teaches creative writing in the Department of English at Notre Dame. This is one of the most sobering interviews I've ever had!

Devon Page - "Our leaders are wrong, lying, or willfully blind!”

The Conversation Lab is a monthly radio program at CFRO FM in Vancouver. It airs on the last Saturday every month at 9am and its available on community and campus radio stations across Canada as well as on your favorite podcasting platform.My focus is on giving community groups, non-profit organizations, and changemakers a voice to talk about those things that are most important to them. Learning how to build bridges into different communities seems critical as we explore the uneven development of colonialism and global capitalism in our community. I'm a veteran broadcaster and Ph.D. Candidate, at UBC's Social Justice Institute. My dissertation is about the cause and effect of polarization and how the words we use open up or shut down our conversations. I'm learning about the science, psychology, cultural, and emotional components of conversation and what they have in common to gain insight and improve on existing knowledge of how we engage with each other whether about climate, race, gender, culture, politics, or social justice issues to contribute to positive social change.CFRO FM (Co-op Radio) is located in Vancouver's downtown eastside on the territories of the xʷməθkwəy̓əm (Musqueam), Skwxwú7mesh (Squamish), and sel̓íl̓witulh (Tsleil-waututh) Nations where we are grateful to be able to do this work.