Today my guest is naturalist Donald Hobern. Donald is a lifelong naturalist with strong interests in Lepidoptera, DNA barcoding and metabarcoding, insect photography, and automation of species detection. I met Donald via the Mastodon platform as I was looking for someone with experience in Entomology which is the study of insects and their relationship to humans, the environment, and other organisms. Donald is a wonderful guest with a wealth of knowledge on the world of insects and we have an informative chat, so I hope you are sitting comfortably and happy to stay with us.